3.1 Steam Re-release.

[SimonS]

I downloaded the old 3.1 and tried playing on steam but it treats it as HLDM, there are no classes and you can't spawn. I remember it used to work fine, but now I can't get it to work properly. Don't know why it thinks it's HL : DM.

Well If the game DID work properly, I was going to tweak a few files so that everything was steam friendly and create an installer so it would install to the proper folder and have the proper tweaked files and such and people could play.

The mod isn't copyrighted, couldn't we like...re-release the mod and market it as a classic version of the mod and let it do the rounds on hl2files, hlplanet and stuff to get some old people playing? This could be the native home of dod 3.1. We got the members, we got the forum...all we need now is the mod!

What's everyones opinion on a dodmod.net re-release of 3.1? Views? Do-able?

[Rob]

It's certainly an interesting idea, a) for re-igniting a great mod; and b) for attracting traffic to our little niche of the internet here.

I just worry about copyright issues, since Valve officially purchased the DOD name, team (employment), and as far as we know, everything they did with it.

[El Capitan]

Aye Valve acquired DoD back in like 2.0 I think...I remember reading about it! Technically it means they took ownership of everything, including the name and therefore it is copyrighted.

[Rob]

Nah they didn't acquire it that early on, but you're right, they starting giving the team some serious help around then. I remember reading that too. IIRC the total acquisition happened during beta 3.1, hence the nomenclature change to v1.0 with the following release.

Honestly i wouldnt worry about it just go ahead If Valve get's pissy about a outdated mod that was once free then fuck em for making a crap version of Soruce. :ninja:

[Cheeto]

I figure either one of two ways:

1) Either Valve doesn't care and we get to do what we want.

2) Due to legal reasons we're allowed to host, download, and play the original installers but can't modify them and so we have to workaround.

[SimonS]

Well either way, a solution needs to be found as to why the game doesn't work as a 3rd party half life mod, before we get anywhere.

I dunno why it think it's HL:DM, it's a full working mod so what's the problem :/

[jow]

I mean. I feel like the game itself is fun, what's not fun is all these shitty servers and stuff. I remember when I ran the mess hall server back in the day, it was mad fun. Maybe we just need to do that again.

[SimonS]

Or both ;)

Dod 1.3 is ok yeah, even more fune with people you know. but 3.1 just had that awesome grittyness and feeling which was lost in the transition to retail (for..reasons unknown)

[ShadowbaneX]

Or both ;)

Dod 1.3 is ok yeah, even more fune with people you know. but 3.1 just had that awesome grittyness and feeling which was lost in the transition to retail (for..reasons unknown)


I'd be down for some 1.3. The Garand didn't suck horribly and ze Britishers were in it. The only thing I'm not sure of is if it supports the para mode.

[Cheeto]

Or both ;)

Dod 1.3 is ok yeah, even more fune with people you know. but 3.1 just had that awesome grittyness and feeling which was lost in the transition to retail (for..reasons unknown)


I'd be down for some 1.3. The Garand didn't suck horribly and ze Britishers were in it. The only thing I'm not sure of is if it supports the para mode.
Umm, I think we're talking about different 1.3. We're talking about BETA 1.3. As in from 2000. Before Steam. Before the Brits. Before Para.

[ShadowbaneX]

I guess we are.

Steam might recognize v1.3 more easily then 1.3b. If you actually want to play some pre-Source DoD.

[Liebgott]

Either version works for me, I just wanna be able to play the old versions again.

[SimonS]

If 3.1 doesn't work on steam now, I doubt the older ones will either

[Liebgott]

There was a way to do it a long time ago, I forgot who did it, but there has to be a way

[Cheeto]

I guess we are.

Steam might recognize v1.3 more easily then 1.3b. If you actually want to play some pre-Source DoD.
This isn't about pre-source DoD, this is about pre-retail nostalgia DoD. When it was WW2 the arcade version.

[Faceman]

Well what if we use Hamachi with HL1 installed on our machines? Then we could run a LAN over the internet and not worry about Steam at all. I remember 3.1 working over Steam too but I forget how we did it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamachi

[jow]

I use Hamachi all the time to play games that I honestly and legally own with my dirty hippie cheapass pirate friends who steal every goddamnthing.

Works like a charm.

[SimonS]

Face you talking bout old school Half life in the SIERRA folder directory. Hell I guess you are. You sure hamachi would work with it? Would we update non-half life to whatever the latest patch is. 1.1.1.0 wasn't it?

[jow]

Hamachi will work with that, yes. It will work with anything, really. You just need to be sure everyone has the same EXACT configuration as far as patches go. I mean, Hamachi will allow you to just connect via "LAN" with everyone. It won't be an established server that outside peers can connect to. Only people with the same patch and version with Hamachi who know our network name/pw will be able to connect.

[SimonS]

Omgggg, I just reinstalled half life and installed 3.1. MEMORIES. The horrible explosion buttons, low res menu, orange text and funky text for the options.

I couldn't get ingame though due to a DLL error, i'm not running 1.1.1.0 (downloading) so that's probably why.

we gotta play it this way.

[Guyver]

Here's how to do it:
(NOTE: The following instructions are pointless, however, because a Steam update fubar'ed it. If you look in the console, it's not loading the sprites.

Fancy a 3.1 or a 2.0 or even 1.3 dod on steam?

HOW-TO: old school dod :)

First of all you need to grab yourself a copy of DOD 3.1 and get it all extracted out. Now normally it will give you a folder called "dod" but this causes problems.

If you use the "dod" folder for 3.1 in the steam client (player side) trying to launch the game makes steam think you are playing 1.x so it gets confused and tries to do an update which really ****s things up. So rename the "dod" folder to "dod_31" and put it in your "SteamApps\<email>\half-life" folder.

Next up, inside the "dod_31" folder find the file "liblist.gam" and edit the line that says "game" to have the value "Day of Defeat 3.1b". This isnt critical but it just changes the name that shows up in the steam games menu.

OK, thats the client sorted...

Now, to make the dedicated server run ints much the same. Basically take your renamed "dod_31" folder and place it inside your HLDS folder.

Start the server as per normal but with the parameter "-game dod_31". If your running the Win32 version you get the nice VGUI to configure the server.

This part is REALLY important. Consistency of the "dod_31" is crucial between client and server or they wont see each other.

From the clients point of view if you install 3.1 as a folder named "dod" although it shows up as a Third Party game in Steam, when you start it it will still filter servers to those playing "dod" and hence you will see 1.x servers too. Obviously you cant connect to them and its hard to see which are running 3.1.

So by calling the folder "dod_31" the games filter looks for servers playing dod_31 and filters out the 1.0 servers.

Now to compliment this, the HLDS needs to have its 3.1 folder called "dod_31" so that the the server shows up as playing dod_31 which is what the steam client is searching for!

Make sense? Hope so!

Anyway, I installed DoD 3.1 on a Win32 Dedicated server today and fired it up and then, from steam using the same dod_31 rule looked for it - voila! There it was, sadly, the only dod_31 steam server.

But I connected to it no problems at all, fully authenticated via steam and it showed me as playing with my Steam ID, etc.

The only issue as a community we need to standardise on is the naming of the DoD 3.1 folder because if we start making up different names for it the clients wont be able to see the server and vice versa.

Based on the above you will be able to play any of the old WON versions of DOD, even 1.3b.


Someone please find a workaround, I'd LOVE to play 3.1b again. :D

[Faceman]

I'm not sure 1.3b works 100% over Steam. My buddy and I were having crashes at some point. Actually it could have been b.c of bots. I forget now.

[SimonS]

The only issue as a community we need to standardise on is the naming of the DoD 3.1 folder because if we start making up different names for it the clients wont be able to see the server and vice versa.

Thats why releasing an installer(s) with these modified files would be great. saving people the small effort to change the files themselves and they can just play straight away, like any mod

Has anybody done any testing with Steam or Won2 or Hamachi yet?Bcause im going attemp to setup a small listen server on won2 for 1.3b and 3.1 just to see if people can join and leave and test a few other things on Friday as i remember you only need the standard beta installers and follow insturctions here http://won2.steamlessproject.nl/faq.php anybody intrested in helping out just pm your msn messgener details.

[Cheeto]

I was going to test with Hamachi this weekend and if I could get it working I'd leave my home desktop running a server or two for a week or two until I can get my main server online.

Only downside I see with Hamachi is that unless we pay for the premium version, we're limited to 16 clients per network and 16 networks generated. So assuming no one minds 16 player games, I was thinking we can have one network be Beta 1 and another network be Beta 3. Though I'd be tempted to make a third network of Beta 1.3b and a 4th of Beta 3 para only. Though that might dilute the player base, plus wear down the server. Here are the specs for my dedicated server:

Athlon XP 1900+, 512MB ram, Linux, 2mb upstream Fios. How many games do you think a machine like that could host?

[mrsman]

Hi, I'm a fan of DOD 3.1 too. Does anybody have a server now?

Maybe I can setup a server on my pc. I only search for other guys who are interested in DOD to.

[Maxey]

What's all the fuss with this Department of Defense talk?

[SimonS]

my heartbeat just rocketed when i saw the thread title, i even did a lil gasping 'hurrrrrr!'.

blah, old post :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[mrsman]

could somebody say something related to the topic? :)

[wickit]

There was a way to do it a long time ago, I forgot who did it, but there has to be a way
yep there was, i remember getting it working a while back now.
i get my google head on

[mrsman]

There are many ways gettin it work.
These I know:

1. start DOD Server and type sv_lan 0 in console -> others can connect but nobody see the server in a serverlist
2. Hamachi
3. Install DOD in the steam folder as discribed above
4. Play on Won server. There is a project who provide new won server http://won2.steamlessproject.nl/servernetwork.php. I didnt tried it with dod but playing cs 1.5 is simple. You only have to change one file so your half life know the new WON Server IPs. And why shouldnt it work with dod 3.1?

Actually I have installed DOD 3.0 on Steam. I named the folder dod_30. I can connect from a second computer. Sadly I can't connect till end cause i have only 1 steam account.

[Faceman]

Honestly, one of these days I'll make a install file with both DoD beta 1.3b and 3.1 with edited config files. It'd be much easier for people to use and install, than editing after install.

[Buglunch]

Does 3.1 have BARs with deployable bipods? Can't remember.

[SimonS]

Honestly, one of these days I'll make a install file with both DoD beta 1.3b and 3.1 with edited config files. It'd be much easier for people to use and install, than editing after install.

DOOOOOOOO ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT (faggot*)












face is not a faggot

[mrsman]

Yesterday I played 3.1 on a public server. Ok, I was the only one but there is one server with dod 3.1.

It's very easy:

1. install Half life
2. install DOD
3. Change one file so half life knows the new WON server
4. Use DOD like in times when there were WON server from Valve and have fun

[SimonS]

install on steam..or with SIERRA Half life install?

[wickit]

i think the steam way is fubar'd so looks like is the other way to me.
ill install myself later and check

[mrsman]

i mean with sierra install. the old way.

[Fenris Wolf]

I'd like to see DoD:S with the best of 3.1b and 1.3. And shotguns. Because fuck you Shane.

[Cheeto]

I'd like to see DoD:S with the best of 3.1b and 1.3. And shotguns. Because fuck you Shane.
And dogs.

[Lithium]

"DoD:S is fine just the way it is!"

*is in denial*
*does a spin move and points at camera*
*falls over*

[Maxey]

Either Valve releases an update so good that it makes DoD:S worth of being part of the franchise or just let it die an honest death. One of those options would be ideal IMHO.

Or just go crazy and actually make a Day of Defeat 2 but making it right from the start, just like they did with TF2. And to make it good from the start there's also two options:

- Base it on b3.1 and build from that gameplay style

or

- Completely reinvent the gameplay without looking back, but without forgetting the roots. Again, just like TF2. Also ditch the happy-go-lucky style from DoD:S and go realistic, gritty and dark like in the b3.1 days.

IMO, either would be the right way to restart the franchise.

[SimonS]

I'd happily re-release 3.1 as a new mod. Reverse engineerd and stuff. Get permissions from valve or whoever the fuckin dod team is now.

Get it working with steam and make a nice exe installer and get it round the mod sites, boom 3.1 dod.

I'd try this myself but I don't know some technical things so it's a big lame by myself :bwarr:

[Burris]

Chances of getting their permission is probably slim to none.

[SimonS]

dont see why not though, it's a mod, we're not charging anything. no money involved

we'd re-release it as day of defeat classic or some shit. dont see why it cant be done

[Burris]

DOD team usually has something oblong stuck up their ass sideways. Probably think people are being taken away from their game no one plays.

[Faceman]

You don't need permission for reasons that SimonS stated. Someone did something similar to CS.

The basics would be:

-Get walking speed down
-Reuse animations
-Keep map entities
-Replicate original COF (1.3b + 3.1)

And then probably a ton of minor things.

[SimonS]

why would we be replicating anything? we'd just take 3.1 and make it workable with steam (at least thats the idea)?

or are you talking about taking dod 1.3 and using that as a base and releasing a mod of that? surely that'd put the dod team off even more than using an old release

[mrsman]

"we'd just take 3.1 and make it workable with steam"

it IS working with steam! discribed some sites back.

[Dr. Crawford]

if 3.1 worked and a lot of people played it i'd be in heaven

[mrsman]

The advantage playing DOD with steam is that you use an half life 1 version downloaded with steam. In this half life there is no problem with the graphic. With the old half life 1.1.1.0 without steam i can't set it to my exact resolution.

But DOD with steam needs that everyone gives the dod folder the same name (dod_31) and changes some dlls.


The easiest way playing DOD 3.1 is the old way i think. Install Half Life, install 1.1.1.0 update, install DOD 3.1.
Copy one file and you can use it like in 1999, you will see no difference.

It is so simple that my mom could do it.

[Buglunch]

Copy what file and from where to where??
Whenever I install HL or DoD to a comp with Steam it
goes into Steam; how do we keep them separate?

[mrsman]

if you want to play DOD with steam, you should use this files after you copied the dod folder in your steam half life folder:
http://www.sportlegende.de/dod_reborn.zip
I'm not sure if it also works without. At my PC it didn't, i could start the game but i couldnt play. Where to copy, read readme.

if you want to play DOD without steam, take the woncomm.lst in your halflife\valve\ folder, open it with notepad and replace the content with:


// Steamless CS Project
// No-WON / WON2 patch for Players v.2.5D
// October 2005
// -----
//
// For detailed server info visit www.won2.net
//

Titan
{
titan.won2.steamlessproject.nl:6003
}

Auth
{
// As for now (Oct 2005) this server isn't online yet.
auth.won2.steamlessproject.nl:7002
}

Master
{
master.won2.steamlessproject.nl:27010
master2.won2.steamlessproject.nl:27010
master3.won2.steamlessproject.nl:27010
master4.won2.steamlessproject.nl:27010
}

ModServer
{
mods.won2.steamlessproject.nl:27011
}

Secure
{
hlauth.won2.steamlessproject.nl:27012
hlauth2.won2.steamlessproject.nl:27012
hlauth3.won2.steamlessproject.nl:27012
}

Or load the file from here http://files.steamlessproject.nl/download.php?file=10 (click on Steamless CS Project).



Whenever I install HL or DoD to a comp with Steam it
goes into Steam; how do we keep them separate?

Hm, i'm not sure. When i have steam installed and then install half life to c:\Sierra\Half life\ there is no conflict with both.

[wickit]

if you want to play DOD with steam, you should use this files after you copied the dod folder in your steam half life folder:
http://www.sportlegende.de/dod_reborn.zip
I'm not sure if it also works without. At my PC it didn't, i could start the game but i couldnt play. Where to copy, read readme.


Yep those dll's work, gave me full working dod bar the background for the front menu.
created a server no problem :) :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Maxey]

Hey mrsman, were you a member on the old dod boards? If not, how did you find this forum?

Also, are you a woman or a man? Because your forum handle is pretty ambiguous there.

Just asking. :thumbsup:

[SimonS]

@above technical posts

this is why we need an exe which comes WITH these fixes to make it work, aswell as 'updated' splash screens , so users, new and old can install like a new mod, and play.

Making people do mandatory fixes like this, making them install additional software, and old HL1 will put them off. I LOVE 3.1 but i'm not prepared to install the old shitty HL1 and do it like that.

Need to make it simple and clean, and...do'able :rawk:

[wickit]

already started to make installer
with the fixes i have done this morning.
including splash screen menu fixes etc
all looks good so far

i am also in the process of setting up a dedicated server, but having problems with that at the moment.
keeps moaning i dont have the 3rd party mod installed :( :picard:
any pointers.

[mrsman]

Hey mrsman, were you a member on the old dod boards? If not, how did you find this forum?

Hi. I found this forum by writing the description about playing DOD with steam in google to find out where it comes from. I searched for people who like to play DOD 3.1 for a long time but it is not easy.
By the way, i am a man.


now there are some problems. I really do not know how to run a dedicated server with steam-dod.

[mrsman]

I started a server with dod-steam. I named the folder dod_31. Can somebody please try to connect it? I can't test it because i have only one steam account.

The adress is:
muemmelmarte.mine.nu:27015

You should see the server in the serverlist. If not, type:
connect muemmelmarte.mine.nu:27015
in console.

[wickit]

yeah it works no problem, as i stated earlier but we need to get the dedicated server running.

here is a link to the installer i created for anyone that wants to try it.

LINK REMOVED

would be nice to see if the installer works for anyone else

[mrsman]

Hi.

I managed setting up an DOD3.1 dedicated server without steam. It is also listet in the serverlist.

Install the old Half life 1
Install update 1.1.1.0
Install DOD 3.1
Change the woncomm.lst with this http://www.sportlegende.de/dod_reborn.zip

start and have fun. my Server is muemmelmarte.mine.nu:27015 (the name is TeTestserver or something like that).




I don't care if DOD with or without Steam is better. But I don't know how to set up an dedicated server with steam.

[mrsman]

I think now dedicated server on steam also works.

[K^^]

hi guys as first awesome that some guys start to play 3.1 again

I have a few questions, I installed with this (http://www.filedropper.com/dod314steam) 3.1b and it works fine on steam, but sadly there is no server could some1 set one ?

and knows someone bots for 3.1 for steam and why I dont have the flag symbols and no reinforcementtimer

regards
and sorry for my english

[mrsman]

i just started a server. i hope you see it in the serverlist.

otherwise try to type
connect muemmelmarte.mine.nu:27015 in console


it is important that your dod folder in steamapps\half-life has the name dod_31


what do you mean with flag symbols?

[K^^]

] connect muemmelmarte.mine.nu:27015
NET Ports: server 27015, client 27005
Server IP address 192.168.220.101:27015
Connecting to muemmelmarte.mine.nu:27015...
STEAM validation rejected

I had this problem .. :(

and with flag symbols I mean this here
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6826/flagpy1.jpg

[mrsman]

do you have an original steam version and downloaded half life with steam?

i don't know why the flags are away. I tested it with 2 computers with XP and vista, it works there.

[K^^]

yep I have steam and half life, thats weird well do u have a clue how I could play with bots on steam I try it already it but when I start a server its freezing and I must restart my computer

[mrsman]

no sorry, i can't tell you this yet

[Maxey]

This thread has been officially hijacked by the new guys. :thumbsup:

[wickit]

HAHA in before the lock :fap:

[SimonS]

it's a team effort!

[wickit]

OK ALL WORKING

LINK REMOVED

client working

dedicated server working

if your going to setup a server then you need to add a file in the dod_31 folder called
steam_appid.txt

open it and add the text '70' with out quote marks, this will show in steam server browser and enable connect to

also my installer version seems to come out with the cl_hud setting off, so if you want them just turn them on in your console

Enjoy

[Stellar]

so do you HAVE to have the original half life to be able to play this?

[wickit]

yes you will need to halflife in your steam acount

PS sorry for the slow site, only place i could use at the time

[SimonS]

We need those manual fixes already made in the installer. manual fixes scare people off, specially if they go wrong / are complex

edit: oh right, if you want to run a server. downloading now and checking it over :rawk:

link not working

[Stellar]

well I got it working except I have a weird issue..

I have two steam accounts : one for my source games and one for the HL Gold type games

On the account with this dod 3.1 and dod retail, my mouse and keyboard movements are VERY jerky. It's almost like I'm getting stuck on random crap and I have no idea why. My dod retail gold and HL stuff is banned on my steam account, BUT if i just open up a local game, I dont have that crappy jerky movements.

I have no idea what difference there could be between my two accounts that cause that problem. Any ideas on how to fix this?

[SimonS]

Could ya try a new link, im gettin 35kbs and an hour+ ETA. Put it on rapidshare or megaupload

[wickit]

lol
yep like i said sorry about that
my upload speed is shite, so i have asked some one else to upload to a faster host

mirrors anyone !!!

[mrsman]

I just started a DOD 3.1 Page. There are Downloads and discriptions in two languages. At the moment the Download is an archive of the dod_31 folder. This works fine although I will add the link to wickits installer when it is online. I think we will get this game back online.
http://dodbeta31.wordpress.com/

[Stellar]

anyone have the same problem as me?

[SimonS]

works fine for me. Joined the KTSA server and it seems to work ok. Started a listen server and also worked. I think I had more fun walking around empty maps than I have playin dod 1.3 and dod : s together. The feel of this game is jus unbeatable, no idea why.....

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9526/wweeeeewtn1.jpg

[Stellar]

Simon is right...this game feels so damn gritty and delicious. All the guns were perfect in this version. The ONLY thing is that the carbine is a little messed up (doesn't shoot smoothly with clicks) but I will not complain about a game that actually FEELS right. I could care less about the lack of HDR and phong lighting, it feels more like WWII without all that crap.

[K^^]

SimonS u as the same problem as me I can see, typ this in ur console or add this commands in the autoexec

cl_hud_objectives "1"
cl_hud_objtimer "1"
cl_hud_reinforcements "1"

we should play some 6on6 this week :P

[SimonS]

Can't we specify that in the autoexec anyway?

Also the mouse was reversed for me, had to change controls

Surely those things can be altered in the installer so those dont have to be changed manually.

What program / method did you use to make the installer? Should definately have it with a better splash screen just for that extra attention to detail, also a project name like 'DoD 3.1 revisedl' ?

I'unno

3.1 for steam ? (with a nice logo, leave this to me , but additional ideas would be nice)

[wickit]

geeesh dont want much then.....
i am in the proceed of uploading another installer with the cl_hud commands in the autoexec, and i have also included the dedicated server file.
As for splash why change it, its the original one ?
as for the installer screen its all i had :shifty:
and it works :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

cant ask for more really, can we ! :thumbsup:

UPDATE
NEW INSTALLER

http://dod.wippiespace.com/dod31_4_steam.exe

faster host :D

[SimonS]

Cool, thatll mean we can just link people this and they can play like any other mod!

start spreadin the word!

[K^^]

I uploaded some movies from 3.1b

http://dod.wippiespace.com/

[mrsman]

There is a problem with the installer. When you start it, there is a discription that you have to install it to the steamapps\folder. The problem is that nobody reads this. On the next page it says that you have to choose a folder where you want dod to be installed to. Users choose there a folder and wonder why it doesn't work when they start steam. And they also can't go back to look where they have to install to because there is no back-button.

Is there a way to automaticly detect the steamapps folder?

[SimonS]

there is ye, mods do it. no idea how to though.

although some installers still make you install manually, infact....3.1 on SIERRA HL did didnt it?

[Stellar]

lets really start spreadin the word about this guys. It'd be awesome to get a big mess hall game going (although I really dont care who I'm playing against, I jus twant someone to shoot with my functional thompson).

[SimonS]

Is that installer ok to post around the HL mod&news sites such as Planet Half life, HL2 files etc?

Or does it still need work? I was about to, but we should come to a unanimous decision about it first. Maybe a project name , '3.1 for steam' is a bit bland. I dunno, whad you think guys?

[mrsman]

i think it still needs some work. we need an installer which can read the registry to read the Steam install dir.

[SimonS]

I still think there's need for a project name so HL News sites can refer to us as 'team bla bla has released 3.1 to us etc'.

Also I have the 3.1 background automatically and the dod 1.3 retail music on the main menu. Maxey reports that he has 1.3 retail background and music. Does the installer include the 3.1 background, or does it leech the resource folder from 1.3 retail (if it's even installed? will people who do not own DoD 1.3 get the Gordon freeman HL1 background w/ no music?)

[Maxey]

No, no, I get the 3.1 background picture fine, it's just that I hear 1.3's main theme on the main menu.

This is what I see:

[Cheeto]

1.3b next! 1.3b!

If it helps, I have the installer for 1.3b still floating around somewhere, along with a few other installers I found/archived.

SHit I wonder if I still have my Russian pack...

[SimonS]

I think we should try release 3.1 and see what kind of playerbase we can pull back (or create new players!) , then later 1.3b can be released ..much like a mod team does...albeit in reverse chronological order lol..

[wickit]

There is a problem with the installer. When you start it, there is a discription that you have to install it to the steamapps\folder. The problem is that nobody reads this. On the next page it says that you have to choose a folder where you want dod to be installed to. Users choose there a folder and wonder why it doesn't work when they start steam. And they also can't go back to look where they have to install to because there is no back-button.

Is there a way to automaticly detect the steamapps folder?

i cant make it any more clearer !!!!

Welcome to the Day Of Defeat 3.1 installer for Steam.
You must own a copy of HalfLife in your Steam account for this to work.

In the next windows please browse to your Half-Life folder within steam
eg "C:\Program files\Steam\steamapps\steamusername\half-life"

but i will try to fix the installer AGAIN with a back button
geeesh


1.3b next! 1.3b!

If it helps, I have the installer for 1.3b still floating around somewhere, along with a few other installers I found/archived.

SHit I wonder if I still have my Russian pack...

HAHA lets get this out there first

OK I NEED THE MENU MUSIC from 3.1, cos i aint got it, and tbh i cant even remeber waht it was like


i dont think we should change any names etc
TBH the mod is made by the dodmod team and they named it, all i have done is package it up added icons etc,
we have made no changes , so in respect. day of defeat 3.1 it should be !

[SimonS]

there wasn't any music, only exploding menu buttons iirc. Also an animated flag but I dont think we can do that with steam

[wickit]

LMAO
thats why i dont remeber it

so the last installer is fine man
so do like a tree and split and make like a banana and leaf
and go spread the word :)

i will talk to Rosie at sunlit see if she will run a server, unless some one has some space bandwidth

[WillBBC]

Holy crap--I am going to install this as soon as I get home tonight. My life just got better.

[Stellar]

We have to get a set time organized so we can have a larger game going.

[wickit]

LMFAO


?<3 Taps!: I love life
?<3 Taps!: meet me in the middle, don't shoot
?stellar: hahah dude this version is so good
?<3 Taps!: I know, nothing's even fucking close
?<3 Taps!: come to my first?
?<3 Taps!: you look so good in your 3.1 panties
?<3 Taps!: holy shit this is a trip
?stellar: do the voice commands
?stellar: talk dirty to me
?<3 Taps!: can I shoot you in the face?

[SimonS]

lol wickit you beat me to the steam forum. I posted it on the red orchestra forum also.

[mrsman]

holy shit. that is dirty!

[K^^]

lol SimonS rage quit :D

[SimonS]

i got mah ass pwned

[mrsman]

i was still there but i didn't respawend. Maybe thats a bug in the server?

[K^^]

It could be, did u try to join spec mode and rejoin again? or just next time typ retry in the console

[Devilish.]

Can anyone post a real installation guide for the retards.
Pl0x.
Thanks.
(Btw It says I don't have a Half Life file, when its all installed and everything.)

[SimonS]

you need to have half life 1. Install it, play it ONCE (this creates files and folders in your steamapps folder). Then install 3.1 to Steam/steamapps/youusername/half-life.

Play!

[Devilish.]

Thankyou kind sir.

[SimonS]

I've been uploading the installer to hl2files.com for a VERY long time, it doesn't have a progress bar or anything, I have a feeling it's not doing anything at all....

[mrsman]

Can anyone post a real installation guide for the retards.
Pl0x.
Thanks.
(Btw It says I don't have a Half Life file, when its all installed and everything.)


I tried to do this on my site. Please say if it is not comprehendible.

http://dodbeta31.wordpress.com (http://dodbeta31.wordpress.com/download-dod-beta-31-client-for-steam-en/)

[Moldiver]

Can't seem to get servers to appear. How long does it take for one to appear in the server window.

[wickit]

ha
well i have the only server at the moment and it was down :(
but its back up now
but i am trying to get bots working on it, so it will be up and down :(
we need to get a proper hosted one, as i dont know how long i can keep this one up before my boss busts me
Lol

[mrsman]

the reason is there is no server at the moment. i'm not at home for some days so i can't host one and wickits get offline for a while. We need some more people hosting a server.

[SimonS]

how do you even set up a dedicated server with dod_31

I tried the hlds in half-life folder and it cant find a .dll

[wickit]

how do you even set up a dedicated server with dod_31

I tried the hlds in half-life folder and it cant find a .dll

You need to download the standalone hlds version
http://storefront.steampowered.com/down ... tetool.exe (http://storefront.steampowered.com/download/hldsupdatetool.exe)

this might help
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=373795

when you do a update use DMC its the smallest, all you do then is place the dod_31 inside your hlds folder
then just do the normal batch or shortcut run

ie
hlds.exe -console -game dod_31 +maxplayers 20 +map dod_caen2

As for bot people, it aint going to happen, Meta mod is fubar'd and iven when i got it working it will not work with any of the Sturmbots dll's

[K^^]

well its sensless to set up a server in my opinion, cos when more as 4 people are trying to play it starts to lag and the pings goes up to 300-400, but still its better as nothing

*edit* hm I have a question, how much people could play on my server without lagging?

Download: 15.158 kbps
Upload: 846 kbps
got 16mbit

[wickit]

well its sensless to set up a server in my opinion, cos when more as 4 people are trying to play it starts to lag and the pings goes up to 300-400, but still its better as nothing

hehe
thats only my server that does that, i have shite bandwidth m8
i only have enough for between 6 - 8 players max
get better host u wont get those problems

[SimonS]

if we get a playerbase they're gonna want servers :punch:

If us 3 cant host then we're gonna need a miracle :fap:

[K^^]

Ill try to open a server later and I found a trickjump movie for 3.1b
http://dod.wippiespace.com/Regis_-_Mobiliteque.avi

some jumps are kinda sensless but a few are cool

[mrsman]

how do you even set up a dedicated server with dod_31

I tried the hlds in half-life folder and it cant find a .dll


I also wrote this here: http://dodbeta31.wordpress.com/howto-dedicated-server-en/


@ K^^
with fastpath?

I think this is enough for the first time. I got something about 1000kbps upload and some years ago i ran a server with 128kbps without fastpath ^^.

[ShadowbaneX]

ok, I'm having some dual-core issues, namely after moving around for a little while, it stutters for a sec, then continues on again. I know that I have to set the CPU affinity, ie, but is there a way I can set it up so that half-life in all it's forms automatically has the same CPU affinity, or do I have to set it manually each and every time?

Oh, and when's the next TMH game?

[Moldiver]

Could go a game tonight.

[mrsman]

I've made a new installer. It automaticly detects the steamfolder so you only have to do one click. If steam or Halflife aren't installed, there is a message which gives you information about whats wrong.

If somebody wants to take a look at it, here it is:

DOD (http://dodbeta31.wordpress.com/download-dod-beta-31-client-for-steam-en/)

[Maxey]

mrsman, were you aware that you used dod 3.0b instead of dod 3.1b in the previous installer?

[mrsman]

I wasn't aware. I use this old installer and it works so i think it is 3.1 (client and server). Or why do you think it is 3.0?

The new installer uses the files from wickit.

[Maxey]

I wasn't aware. I use this old installer and it works so i think it is 3.1 (client and server). Or why do you think it is 3.0?

The new installer uses the files from wickit.
3-1-is-now-functional-with-steam%C7%83-p57361.html#p57361 (http://www.themesshall.net/3-1-is-now-functional-with-steam%C7%83-p57361.html#p57361)

Check that post. Maybe you need to start visiting the other forum sections eh? ;)

[mrsman]

Hi Toasty. I was suprised when i read your post because i was sure that i used a 3.1 installer. Now i tested wickits installer and mine and saw that both axis inf have 3 granates. So both are 3.0? Maybe the 2 dlls which are changed come from 3.0. So we are playing a mixed version?

[Maxey]

Hi Toasty. I was suprised when i read your post because i was sure that i used a 3.1 installer. Now i tested wickits installer and mine and saw that both axis inf have 3 granates. So both are 3.0? Maybe the 2 dlls which are changed come from 3.0. So we are playing a mixed version?
Maybe, that should explain some of the problems.

Anyway, there's some links to an actual 3.1b installer in that thread, if you need it.

Oh and and it's Maxey, not Toasty, look up. :p

[prodigalson]

Guys, it is so great to see people trying to get this going again. I can bring about 10 people to the 3.1 community. Please let me know how to get this game working! My steam ID is tonykart34, I am active in mIRC in #dod3.1 and #scrimdod, and you can e-mail me at prodigalson3.1@live.com.

Please let me know how to get on board. This was the best game ever.

[SimonS]

http://dod.wippiespace.com/dod31_4_steam.exe

download from here

point to your steam/steamapps/username/half-life folder

n play!

[prodigalson]

Anyone gonna be on tonight to get a game going?

[wickit]

GG tonight guys

[Moldiver]

I see you changed your sig then lol.

[SimonS]

brilliant.

[ShadowbaneX]

I'm having some pretty bad issues with 3.0 here. Was just on anzio as a kraut and every single time I died it said 'no class selected' and I wouldn't spawn. If I did pick a class, the timer would just stay at 0:00.

[Stephenson]

Wickit, who is KL337?

[Cheeto]

So I thoroughly enjoyed myself, I have just two complaints.

Don't change the damn maps so often. It's hard to get into a good groove if every five minutes it's a new map.

You can't always pick which weapon you want. I.E. Thompson or Carbine, Kar or Gewher. Not sure why, but it usually will just give you the default.

[prodigalson]

I am downloading the game now. Any body up for some gameage tonight.

[Stephenson]

Hedgerow was fun. I laughed at how all of us rushed over to the fenced off area in the map and hopped it.

[prodigalson]

:punch:

[prodigalson]

3.1 God the memories are great. Cherbourg, Caen2, Heatau, Zafod!!!

[prodigalson]

I got the following error message when I tried to connect to the server:

"you .dll [cl_dlls/client.dll] differs from the servers"

What do I do?

[mrsman]

"Anyway, there's some links to an actual 3.1b installer in that thread, if you need it."

My 3.1 installer is ok. Maybe we should be satisfied with playing dod 3.0 until somebody ascertains how to get real 3.1 workin on steam.

But thats really not the problem. It is fun, whether it is 3.1 or 3.0. We only need more people and more server.

[prodigalson]

HELP!

I got the following error message when I tried to connect to the server:

"you .dll [cl_dlls/client.dll] differs from the servers"

What do I do?

[blackguy32]

I guess I just can't hang. I'm just too acquainted with some of the new stuff at the moment.

1) I hate the 3.1 crosshair. I hate it hate it HATE IT. If I could have just a green dot, that would be perfect.

2) One of the few changes they made to Source I actually like, and thats Kars only kill with a shot to the chest.

Other than that, it was ok. 2 is not a deal killer, but 1 is.

[K^^]

Stephenson it was me, why?
@prodigalson download dod 3.1b from there http://dod.wippiespace.com

[Stephenson]

Stephenson it was me, why?
@prodigalson download dod 3.1b from there http://dod.wippiespace.com
I'm a little confused as how you were hitting the majority of us with out using the scope on your sniper from across the entire map. That is all.

[Gooofy]

Is there a test server (3.1 beta) I can try connecting to?

[mrsman]

To all of those who want to play this.


1. DON'T use a normal dod 3.1 installer!

2. Load a modified dod 3.1 from here:

Wickits installer from wippiespace (http://dod.wippiespace.com/dod31_4_steam.exe)

or here:

get current link from my site (http://dodbeta31.wordpress.com/download-dod-beta-31-client-for-steam-en/)

both use the same files but the install routine is different.


Befor you do that you have to install steam and half life with steam. If there are still problems, let us know. Generally this works because there are already a few people playing with these files.


Hi blackguy. That is all part of DoD 3.1 and most people like it. I LOVE the crosshair, i think normal crosshairs are so booring.

btw:Maxey, sorry for "Toasty". I really didn't see it. I just wondered about the name ^^

[SimonS]

will the new installer be compatable with the old installer (meaning people who can already play wont need to re-install)

[wickit]

they r the same files
no changes made

got stats up
not sure why i did it
http://wickit.adsl24.co.uk

still trying to get rockthevote working

[mrsman]

yes, no changes.
i just fixed a small bug in the installer and upload again. it is still beta (the installer, not the content).

wickit, the stats rock! It only takes a second to see who's cheating :D

[Maxey]

Did you fix the dll mix up? Is this one using the correct 3.1 dlls? I'm kinda confused as well right now.

[mrsman]

Content of the installer

My first installer:
- dod beta 3.1 with changed dlls

Wickits installer:
- dod beta 3.1 with changed dlls.
- added icon and some other fixes

My current installer:
- The same as wickits (i took his files)


They all work. The reason why i made a new installer is that it is even more simple to install DoD with it.
We can't use the correct 3.1 dlls because they don't work with steam. All installer use them.

[wickit]

OK here is where its at

I downloaded the 3.1 full installer from the web.
Installed it
fired it up, got the wrong splash menu screen and menus where fecked up a bit
launched game, menus are completely fucked up and can not select class etc etc (IT DONT WORK)

Created the splash screen to Steam specification
Created Steam Games menu icon to Steam specification
Updated liblist.gam to rename the game and give credit to DoDMoD team in Steam games menu
took client dll's and game dll's from DOD 3.0 <----- yes 3.0 dll not 3.1 cos that dont work OK
created steam_appid.txt so steam could relate dod 3.1 client and dod 3.1 servers
created GameMenu.res to sort out menu issues
created ClientScheme.res to get the colours right (ish)
Borrowed logo_game.tga, game_menu_mouseover.tga and game_menu.tga
Borrowed Menu music
Created installer and tested.

Uploaded and shared

So every one is using the right version (including the 3.0 dll's)

hope that clears things up a bit

[prodigalson]

I used the right installer, but I can't get the .dll to match. What the heck to I need to do! This is killing me!

@blackguy.... the 3.1 cross hairs are the best. You can get such a nice feel for the game with those.

[prodigalson]

Oh yeah! I got it. Ready to go. Let's do it!

[mrsman]

prodigalson, maybe you can only try to delete half life and install it again also install dod again. i don't know what else you can do. do you use windows xp?



edit: great! and what did you do?

[SimonS]

that new auto detect installer out anytime soon?

[SimonS]

also what was hl1/WONS font? Steam has a new one, hl1 had a smaller type

[Maxey]

I used the right installer, but I can't get the .dll to match. What the heck to I need to do! This is killing me!

@blackguy.... the 3.1 cross hairs are the best. You can get such a nice feel for the game with those.
What feel? The crosshairs were bullshit. I never knew how to properly aim with those. Once I changed it to a simple still dot, I started playing a lot better.

[SimonS]

I think they act as a low tech iron sight. you dont know the EXACT place where it's gonna hit. I think it can give off better gunfights, maybe that's just me

[Maxey]

No, it was bullshit. I want to know where my shot will hit, not guess. If I wanted that I'd play dod source.

[mrsman]

that new auto detect installer out anytime soon?

I have linked it on my page. Here is the download: click (http://rapidshare.com/files/168824351/DoDb31steam.exe)



No, it was bullshit. I want to know where my shot will hit, not guess. If I wanted that I'd play dod source.

I like dod because it is not like other shooters. Changing the crosshair is like cheating. Everyone playing this game has to get used to it.

Those who
-don't like the crosshairs
-can't identify enemys and want radar
-want to run faster than in Counterstrike
-hate bleeding
shouldn't play dod 3.1.

[Maxey]

No, it was bullshit. I want to know where my shot will hit, not guess. If I wanted that I'd play dod source.

I like dod because it is not like other shooters. Changing the crosshair is like cheating. Everyone playing this game has to get used to it.

Those who
-don't like the crosshairs
-can't identify enemys and want radar
-want to run faster than in Counterstrike
-hate bleeding
shouldn't play dod 3.1.
The crosshair was the only thing I hated about 3.1 tbh.

[Cheeto]

All the sudden the bandwidth of those old 3.1 modification sites is going to increase with us re-customizing our games.

[SimonS]

any luck with a server cheeto dear

[Cheeto]

Well there's always a server, but it's usually empty. No one wants to game right now. :(

[K^^]

Stephenson it was me, why?
@prodigalson download dod 3.1b from there http://dod.wippiespace.com
I'm a little confused as how you were hitting the majority of us with out using the scope on your sniper from across the entire map. That is all.

probably I had luck

tonight will be some match?

[Maxey]

[quote="K^^":5rx2nm52]Stephenson it was me, why?
@prodigalson download dod 3.1b from there http://dod.wippiespace.com
I'm a little confused as how you were hitting the majority of us with out using the scope on your sniper from across the entire map. That is all.

probably I had luck

tonight will be some match?[/quote:5rx2nm52]
Faceman says he get you using aimbot. If match tonight I watch you.

[SimonS]

I'm gonna hop on now

[Cheeto]

http://editor321.planethalflife.gamespy.com/

Some alternate weapons, players, sprites, and sounds from the good old days.

EDIT: Shit I just realized those are mostly intended for Retail. So I can't tell you which will work and which won't.

[SimonS]

anyone in contact with editor321, can he put the installer on Planet half life?

[prodigalson]

If you want to get owned... go into 3.1 now. My bullets are waiting for your faces!!!!!

[wickit]

STATS UPDATED

http://wickit.adsl24.co.uk/

:punch: :punch: :punch: :punch: :punch:

LOL enjoying playing this much

Most Time Online - - - 8h34m Dr. C

On another note
I have got a guy in the East to setup a test server with Linux, i think we have managed to get it working.
see here
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... ost8568839 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8568839#post8568839)
so all our Eastern friends can now play :)

[prodigalson]

That is great news. Now I don't have to have a 140 ping! Have him join these forums so that we can keep our community tight.

God, I had so much fun playing again. I can't wait to run home from work to get online! I am practicing my sick face right now! (cough, cough, I'm having a rough day :cry:)

As I have mentioned many times in game, I will definitely contribute to the purchase and monthly costs of a "real" server. If we can get the together this would be super. Once I get my guys all the information they need to download this game, we will be good to go and have even more people.

I set up a mIRC channel in the #gamesurge network called: #dod3.1 stop in to visit or idle there. The IRC network is a good place to communicate with hardcore DoDers and hopefully re-ignite their passion for this game again.

Another thing we need to do is setup a 3.1 steam community so we can all chat via Steam in between games. It will make things easier to setup and be another step in legitimizing our revival efforts.

With a forum, server, an IRC, and a Steam Community we are on the right track for sure. One request is that we put the link to the 3.1 installer in a more obvious spot.

Anyways, it is so great to play a real FPS again. Still the best FPS of all time. I really think our timing is right with the revival this time around. Let's keep getting online and let's keep building this community. Tell everyone about it, even non-gamers. See you out there!

BTW, check out that #1 spot on the server rankings!

[wickit]

Another thing we need to do is setup a 3.1 steam community so we can all chat via Steam in between games. It will make things easier to setup and be another step in legitimizing our revival efforts.


Already done and growing very fast
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dod_31

[mrsman]

everyone of us will get abrogated.


i mean get kicked out of the job. English is easy.... not easy enough for me :shifty:

[prodigalson]

Wow mrsman, that chick in your avatar is so hot. You could get lost in a broad like that!

Just added myself to the community. At about 3pm EST I will be looking to kill some people in 3.1. Anyone want to die?

[prodigalson]

Ok, here is the scoop. I can get an 18 slot performance server (500fps) based in New York for approx. $50 per month. If I could get some donations, I can make this happen right away. PM me and I will send you my paypal information.

[wickit]

thats rather expensive m8
you need to shop about a bit, plus im sure there is someone here that has the space and bandwidth to run one
and that would be FREE :fap:

[prodigalson]

It is expensive, but that is for a High Priority, Boosted (500 fps) server. Since our community is spread out across the UK and USA, it would be best to have a high quality server. Send me more links to other server companies and I will surely shop it.

If someone can run a comparable server to this from home, that would be ideal. We need to find out whom and set this up!

[SimonS]

2 servers now, this is going well :maxey:

[prodigalson]

Hopefully we can get 1 good server though. Almost everyones ping is over 130 and some over 200. 1 good server and this thing will work out really well. This first wave of true 3.1 purists will not be picky about ping, but if this community will have trouble reaching outward unless we are able to give people better pings.

[prodigalson]

2 servers now, this is going well :maxey:

This is going to work. The timing is right guys. The timing is right.

[Maxey]

What ping problems? I have no idea of what are you talking about.

/me treasures his sub-100 ping.

[SimonS]

We're europeans maxey, stand proud!

[mrsman]

my server will run again in the evening. people from germany will have ping of 30..40. From other countries i dont know. upload is about 1019kbit/s.

Either we get a real server or we get more home server running.

ping boost is useless, it only sounds spectacular. Maybe some more people start a home server so there is always minimum 1 server online.

[prodigalson]

We don't need multiple servers until the base starts to grow. We need 1 good server that can handle the 18 players we had yesterday. What are the solutions?

[SimonS]

Does amx or any admin mods work with this install?

[wickit]

there is none,
because of a thing called the ATLANTIC OCEAN
its going to be bitch
If the host is US then Europe becomes the HPB
If you host in UK/Europe the the yanks get HPB

Best thing to do is just get ONE server that is either in one or the other and is FREE.
Like mine at the moment, but like i said before not sure how long i can keep it hidden from da boss.
plus its not that pratical, as it gets ping spikes when staff login to the office from home.
Also i had some complaints from staff about slow vpn's over the weekend HAHA

As for amx yes but its buggy, im going to try and sort it out so we can have a few admins

[prodigalson]

Do we need a really spectacular PC to run a server? And does anyone here have the ability to run a server? We need to get moving on this.

[wickit]

its not the puter its the bandwidth
its all about the bandwidth man

anyone out there that is using a dedicated webhost or a VPS, could do it no problem

[prodigalson]

That stuff is way over my head. Are you sure this is better than getting a real server?

[mrsman]

how much bandwidth does it need?

[wickit]

here
go looky
http://www.reece-eu.net/drekrates.php

[mrsman]

20 player(s) max recommended it says. i just reinstalled system on my desktop pc and set up a server soon.


Sorry for spamming. next time i will ask you in steam.

[prodigalson]

Here is a nice breakdown as well.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... hp?t=98416 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98416)

[K^^]

I have a 1074bandwithd but my router is fucked up so I cant set a server sadly

there is a server from Taiwan lol maybe we could play against this dudes

[SimonS]

Jolt.co.uk - DoD 3.1 Server











:rawk:

[Cheeto]

I've got my own closet server set up, I can install the Linux dedicated server on it provided that it will work with DoD (don't see why not). Also got 2 Mbit upstream bandwidth on FioS. But I'm a US host, so the UK players might have to suffer some high pinging.

That's the whole issue, prodigal, is that crossing the Atlantic, someone will have to suffer higher pings. Even if you had a server with infinite bandwidth, you'd be limited by the speed of light and the speed of all the computers that have to be routed through, which is the speed of the signal transmission. However 150ms is not entirely unplayable, it may be a little tricky, but not terrible.

[mrsman]

I have a 1074bandwithd but my router is fucked up so I cant set a server sadly

there is a server from Taiwan lol maybe we could play against this dudes


loooool, we get a second server. They are really from taiwan and the like hitlers SS-Army. Watch at their site: http://starsclan.idv.tw/

[SimonS]

I'm willing to play this game with 150-250 ping, I dun give a shit, that's how I played it back in the day anyway.


mrsman how's that new installer coming that auto detects?

I want to spread the word but am waitin for it so I can tell peeps

[mrsman]

SimonS, there it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/168824351/DoDb31steam.exe

I tested it on vista and xp and it worked without any trouble

[SimonS]

is this the one with the auto detect folder ye

[wickit]

Jolt.co.uk - DoD 3.1 Server











:rawk:
HA i just be sending messages to Lara who was the main dod admin back in the days of Jolt, not sure if she still works there though !!

[prodigalson]

I will obviously play regardless of my ping, as I am sure most of the people on here will too. But, my concern is for attracting the new players (converts, or fresh faces) to be convinced to play on a laggy server. Maybe having 1 US based server and 1 UK server is the answer, but I fear that it will split our passionate, yet small community.

I was playing at 140 ping yesterday and still got 10x the enjoyment of playing with a perfect ping in 1.3. However, it would be amazing to play a 8v8 game with pings all less than 100. If we could achieve that, we could really start making some surfable waves in the very snobbish DoD community.

I am hoping that these personal servers can give us what we need to have competitive matches.

BTW, we should make some teams and scrim once a week. School yard style!

[SimonS]

*makes [the bunker] clan*

[prodigalson]

"3.1|" Clan is recruiting now. Send applications via PM or e-mail please!

[Moldiver]

SimonS, there it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/168824351/DoDb31steam.exe

I tested it on vista and xp and it worked without any trouble


Installing this at my other house, this installer work?

[SimonS]

yes, it auto detects your steam install too

[Cheeto]

Consider this: 3.1 will never be as popular as retail, this will never be more than just a cult following of maybe a few dozen people. So trying to get up a bunch of servers and websites and channels and such is going to be a futile effort if we still can't get enough people on hand at a time to fill a single server.

[prodigalson]

Which is exactly my point.

I would rather have 1 really good server than 2 ok servers.

[SimonS]

Consider this: 3.1 will never be as popular as retail, this will never be more than just a cult following of maybe a few dozen people. So trying to get up a bunch of servers and websites and channels and such is going to be a futile effort if we still can't get enough people on hand at a time to fill a single server.

mmm I kinda disagree, technically the way the steam version has been packaged, it is...essentially a new mod. No manual installations, fixes, or incompatabilities are possible with this version. People download and play like any other newly released mod. Now I know the game is OLD. But publicity will attract:

Old players : If someone else did this, I would shit a fucking brick and download asap, but I am an ultra-fan boy. I hope this release brings much joy to older players who witnessed their favorite game get murdered by the boss, just look at the new members here from this lil project, I hope for many more.

New players : What the fuck is 3.1? Old version of dod you say? Hm i'll check it out, wow this is awesome, i'm gonna play from now on. Bad outcome: they don't like it and they go away, technically no loss.

Current players (of dod games): Imagine people driving cars with square wheels, they're content with their current product, then we give them round wheels, they use this new format happily. Basically, people who still play dod today (1.3 and source), will try out this version and convert and become 3.1 players


I know it's an old game, but repackaging it is something I've wanted for this community for ages, the past few games have shown that the 3.1 spirit has never died. I'm willing to play on a laggy server with 3 people. There are many 10 ping servers with 32 people on both Dod 1.3 and Source, do I care, do I fuck....

[K^^]

Lara is right now admin on DGServers.co.uk

[SimonS]

£15 quid (plus 'de-branding' I assume thats sprites around maps) for a 16 player server, doesn't sound too bad. Wonder if they'd do 3.1

[prodigalson]

I actually agree with that Simons, but there are some flaws to your argument.

First of all, many of the kids who have jumped to source will only jump to the hotest game out. They are so involved in the online gaming community that they fear they will lose all their cyber-social credibility if they do anything that is not the latest rage. Many people have gauked at the fact that I am promoting 3.1 again. They say: 'Tsk, isn't that an OLD game", or "Geez, another". These kids are bandwagon jumpers and won't help us build a community.

Another group of kids are the competitive gamers. But they will only play games where leagues exist. This is why I think having a weekly tournament would attract competitive gamers. There is a chance that we could attract a small group of these people.

Casual gamers. Most casual gamers pick up a box at the local store because they heard something about it. We don't have that advantage, but we can use our mouths to spread the word. I have three kids from work downloading the game in the near future and a couple buddies who will be on soon. This is our best way to do it.

Is this game better? By a mile! But, the question is do people care, and who?

The hard core gamers don't care. They are off to wherever the community tells them to go. Maybe 1 or 2 might come with us and we will try to convert some, but shouldn't count on big numbers.

The competitive gamers will definitely stop in for a cup of tea with us if they know that there are some players in here (which there are). We can shmooze them over with some tournaments and what not and hope that they bite.

But, the only way to make this thing sore is to bring people in who are less interested in the gaming community and more interested in just playing a good game. I will work at nauseum to spread the word, but I need everyone else to do the same.

Also, we need to get on my mIRC channel in #gamesurge, #dod3.1. And, I think we need to have a DoD section on this forum, instead of just a thread. The Steam community is growing and is a great way to let everyone know what we are up to. Let's just hope that Valve doesn't shut us down.

And... we need 1 Official Server.

[prodigalson]

Just please, no silly sound effects or chinsy add ons to the server. Just a straight up DoD server will please everyone.

[wickit]

And... we need 1 Official Server.

YEP I'm with ya there, i have just emailed Lara regarding a server......

TBH I might just stick my hand in my pocket and pay for it anyway

[prodigalson]

If you need help paying, I will donate. Don't be shy to ask wickit.

[SimonS]

And... we need 1 Official Server.

YEP I'm with ya there, i have just emailed Lara regarding a server......

TBH I might just stick my hand in my pocket and pay for it anyway

i'll be with you on that, the prices are very reasonable on that site. I'm sure others will donate too, every little helps

[prodigalson]

Are you guys familiar with mIRC? If so, would you please idle in our 3.1 room. #dod3.1 in gamesurge.

[Maxey]

Are you guys familiar with mIRC? If so, would you please idle in our 3.1 room. #dod3.1 in gamesurge.
We already have a channel at freenode, #themesshall join us there if you can.

[prodigalson]

Freenode is ok, but most of the US group uses gamesurge.

[Maxey]

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2646/serversvp6.jpg

Cool.

[prodigalson]

Too many servers. Completely unneccessary.

[Cheeto]

Freenode is ok, but most of the US group uses gamesurge.
What the hell are you talking about? What group?

[prodigalson]

The us gamers use gamesurge mostly, imo.

[K^^]

Quakenet is the best I would say and with most dod players would be cool if some1 could do some post/adversting on http://www.zpgaming.eu and http://www.onepointthree.org for 3.1b

[Maxey]

Let's not start a pissing match contest over what is the best network. We already have #themesshall on freenode and I don't think it would be healthy to have several channels over different networks for the same shit.

[prodigalson]

But can we change the name from themeshall to 3.1? It is just easier to advertise.

[Maxey]

How about creating a 3.1 channel in freenode so we don't have to hop between networks? I'm kinda lazy.

[prodigalson]

that's fine with me. I just think it would be easier if it is called dod3.1

[prodigalson]

Are there a lot of DoD channels on Free node?

[Maxey]

Does that matter? Do you really think we're gonna make this as popular as before? I like it knit tight to be honest. I just want to play some games in the evening with my TMH pals.

[prodigalson]

I would like to expand it as much as possible. It is worth a shot at least. This is a tight knit group here for sure and I don't think that will change. We should build off of that.

[Cheeto]

But can we change the name from themeshall to 3.1? It is just easier to advertise.
No, the channel is for all the Mess Hall, not just this mod. You can talk about 3.1 in there or use it to announce a new game coming up, I don't mind.

[Gooofy]

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You guys sure this is 3.1 beta?

I tried this version, and wondered why my garand gave only 90% damage.
I didn't see any bandage option, and the grenades didn't make me shit my pants.

I went back to my C:\Valve\Half-Life (pre-steam) DOD 3.1 beta game, and played with my old SturmBOT buddies.

Anybody try to get this version up for multiplayer successfully?

[Cheeto]

The garand only did 90%ish damage after Beta 1.3b, the bandage button is Z, and the grenades are definitely nukes especially if you chunk one at a map seam.

[wickit]

* CAUTION - Negative comment within *

I didn't see any bandage option, and the grenades didn't make me shit my pants.
Anybody try to get this version up for multiplayer successfully?

See me sig on the nades

Multiplayer are you aving a larf
check out these updated today stats
http://wickit.adsl24.co.uk

[mrsman]

There is a bug with scope. Sometimes it takes some time to get clear but sometimes it is immediately clear. For those whose scope gets clear immediately it is a little bit easier to snipe.

Yesterday my scope was first lazy but then it was clear the moment i clicked the button.

[prodigalson]

This is definitely 3.1. It feels so right.

[prodigalson]

I got an e-mail back from Detox Servers and they said that they can definitely host a server, but they will need the server files, because they don't have those. But, if we can get the server files, they can host the server.

Let me know what you guys think, or if we are going to go with Jolt.

[prodigalson]

BTW, I am staring the 3.1 clan... we have four players in it and want to scrim a team this weekend. Let me know who wants to go.

3.1 Clan:
Prodigal Son
Voodoo
Lucky Optical
Savo

[SimonS]

I got an e-mail back from Detox Servers and they said that they can definitely host a server, but they will need the server files, because they don't have those. But, if we can get the server files, they can host the server.

Let me know what you guys think, or if we are going to go with Jolt.

wickits chattin to someone about servers, i'd wait for him first

[prodigalson]

That's what i'll do. Thanks for the update.