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TylerDurden
Feb 25th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Im about to sit down and play this game for the first time on me SexBox69, anything i should know about ? Anyone else played ? I'll follow up my report after i play for a bit and eat some chicken nuggets. Ahem, thank you.

Ginger Lord
Feb 25th, 2008, 05:06 PM
Expect lots of tedium and repetition.

But it looks nice.

Ska Wars
Feb 25th, 2008, 05:41 PM
Just finished it yesterday.

Does anyone else remember when games actually had endings?

Liebgott
Feb 25th, 2008, 07:18 PM
I watched my little brothe rplay it when I was for Christmas, looks nice and fun, never played it though.

DarkPenfold
Feb 25th, 2008, 10:15 PM
I love the game despite its repetitiveness - there's just something about dashing towards a rooftop archer as he nocks an arrow, leaping into him and burying a dagger in his neck. (Then watching the crowd below scream and scatter as his body slides off the roof and into the street.)
Also assassinating all those bloody beggars and drunks/mad folk once you've finished the game. Hours of frustration releived without a single dent to your energy bar... lovely.

The free-running is brilliant fun when you're looking for the flags for the full 1k achievement points, but they can be hidden in the most awkward places. If you get stuck looking for the 2 or 3 that have evaded you, go here:
http://www.assassinscreed-maps.com/Maps.htm

TylerDurden
Mar 9th, 2008, 09:42 PM
oh god, fuck Assassin's creed.

The xbox360 can JUST barely run the game. You can tell they also had to cut a lot of stuff out for the xbox, like SWIMMING.

Since when can an assassin not swim in 4 feet of water ?

Fenris Wolf
Mar 9th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Since he saw Jaws when he 5 and was forever scarred?

Rob
Mar 9th, 2008, 10:08 PM
The xbox360 can JUST barely run the game. You can tell they also had to cut a lot of stuff out for the xbox, like SWIMMING.
Uh, IIRC Assassin's Creed was developed simultaneously on 360/PS3 and the PC release isn't till the end of this month. Why would stuff have been cut out on the platform it was developed on?

Burris
Mar 9th, 2008, 10:14 PM
I thought the main story arch was stupid, full of dramatic cliches, and cheaply set up for sequels. The end was cool though.

The gameplay was decent but it suffers from Stupid Guards Syndrome.

TylerDurden
Mar 9th, 2008, 10:23 PM
The xbox360 can JUST barely run the game. You can tell they also had to cut a lot of stuff out for the xbox, like SWIMMING.
Uh, IIRC Assassin's Creed was developed simultaneously on 360/PS3 and the PC release isn't till the end of this month. Why would stuff have been cut out on the platform it was developed on?


Because xbox360 can't handle it all. In some parts of the game, the graphics glitch out. Any game that kills you for falling in a small pool of water tells me something. The AI is very very stupid. The list goes on.

i can almost bet that the PC version will be WAY WAY WAY better.
Edit:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/856/856534p1.html

also, if you go to Assassin's creeds official forums, you can't help but notice how many threads talk about the glitches, and stupidness.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/5251069024

Besides, AC2 is already in the works. wtf ? That right there is proof that they were rushed and couldn't put all the things they wanted to in the game.

Rob
Mar 9th, 2008, 11:29 PM
But glitches and stupidness aren't indicative of stuff being cut for the system. Especially when it was developed on the system. It's evidence of a lazy QA team.

Fenris Wolf
Mar 10th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Man am I glad my dad got me Halo 3 instead of Assassins Creed for Christmas. Even though I played about halfway through Halo and got bored with it.

Shade-of-Grey
Mar 11th, 2008, 07:59 PM
a botched version of the PC release got leaked a few weeks ago, so i only got to try it out for like one level...but i really liked it.

i cant wait for the release in april.

the free running is definetely the coolest part, and i'm a sucker for 'assassin' type games (apparently i'm the only person who thinks hitman is one of hte best games ever made) so maybe that has something to do with my bias

Rob
Mar 11th, 2008, 08:05 PM
Nah SOG you aren't alone. Hitman is my favourite game (franchise) behind Deus Ex (first one only).

It's just a shame the movie was a piece of shit.

DarkPenfold
Mar 11th, 2008, 08:56 PM
Because xbox360 can't handle it all. In some parts of the game, the graphics glitch out. Any game that kills you for falling in a small pool of water tells me something. The AI is very very stupid. The list goes on.

i can almost bet that the PC version will be WAY WAY WAY better.
Proof that fanboyism works both ways :D
Swimming probably isn't in there because a) running over or near water makes up for approximately 2% of the gameplay and b) because being able to swim up to a ship housing an assassination target, rather than find routes across docked ships and fortified bay walls, would completely break one of the major missions. Why add a feature which doesn't work in the context of the game?

Aside from the quite frankly ludicrous system requirements, a few guard AI tweaks and a handful of new mission types (which admittedly would have been welcome but don't sound like anything that couldn't have been included in the console versions had they been gifted an extra 6 months' development time), I can almost bet that the PC version will be exactly the same.

jow
Mar 12th, 2008, 03:49 PM
its a badass game. DarkPenfold is my favourite person. Also, where the fuck is Janobi!!!

Shade-of-Grey
Mar 14th, 2008, 03:32 AM
Aside from the quite frankly ludicrous system requirements, a few guard AI tweaks and a handful of new mission types (which admittedly would have been welcome but don't sound like anything that couldn't have been included in the console versions had they been gifted an extra 6 months' development time), I can almost bet that the PC version will be exactly the same.
It is almost exactly the same. The only difference between the whole thing i believe is that there are 3 new investigations, and even they are not that new...i believe that all of them are filed under the 'informant' type.

As for the system requirements, i believe those are way higher than they actually are...my computer ran it amazingly....my guess is that the PC and xbox versions will be very similar. perhaps just slightly better graphics in PC version due to DX10 (which actually runs faster than DX9...this is maybe one of the most exciting things)...i believe that the huge extra dev time was mostly optimization...apparently they fixed it so it runs alot faster than it did before (4x faster now according to a dev), but like i said the added gameplay definetely didnt take 6 months. probably just something tacked on to be able to label it "director's cut edition" and make it seem like those six months werent just because they completely ignored PC development to get the xbox version out the door....which is exactly what they did.

WHEATLEY007
Mar 14th, 2008, 09:12 AM
But is the fighting as crap as I've heard ?

Zirconium Blade
Mar 14th, 2008, 12:21 PM
But is the fighting as crap as I've heard ?

Yes, hold one button and counter-attack. Thats it.

WHEATLEY007
Mar 14th, 2008, 02:06 PM
^^ Deleted game from 'to buy list' >:(

SimonS
Mar 14th, 2008, 10:52 PM
I love all these stupid games coming out and when people get passed the plastic graphics they all boil down to shit games

This, CLiver barkers jericho , any other stupid named new game - check your local game store for a list

TylerDurden
Mar 15th, 2008, 01:53 AM
WHEATLEY007 wrote:
^^ Deleted game from 'to buy list' >:(


lmao !


It's really too bad how almost all game company's are taking after EA......


lol, i don't know where that came from, but i'm sure it has some truth to it.

All games now seemed rushed as hell, and whats the point ?

The point might be having something to do with contracts and such "we'll give you X amount of money if you produce X amount of games for us this year"

i would never pay 60 dollars for a game where all you do is hold down right trigger, A, and push up on the left thumb stick, and watch as you "free jog" from place to place, as the game automatically does everything for you. Pretty much thats what AC felt like. A fat kids dream.

Thats right, i said it. AC is a fat kids dream game, because all you do is sit there and watch some shit. Some times you are able to hold down some buttons and watch as the game automatically does everything for you.

When i was saying that AC will be better on PC, i was saying that because i felt bad for bashing it. I want this game to be good, but it really just isn't in the cards.

Like i said before. This game was RUSHED.

I still say Xbox 360 can't handle the game. If xbox could handle it, then why is the game so simple ?

someone was saying that swimming is 2% of the game, and went off on how swimming would not add anything to gameplay.

That wasn't my point, my point was swimming is more then 2% of the game, because water is everywhere. From objects you need to check out, flags etc. Buildings you must get in, or places to hide, there is water likely water near these places, and if you are free running and sitting there like a goon watching the game do everything for you, then guess what. The game is gonna fuck up, and you are gonna fall in some water, and die. And have to free run all the way back to where you were.

They are already making AC 2. That right there is stupid. They can't even make a game the right way the first time, so they are gonna sell it for full price, and then try again and more then likely get it wrong again, yet be selling it for full price.

Xbox360 i have come to find out, is uuumm... not that great. Consoles in general.

In 1998 when i got my first internet connection, and started online gaming, i knew that PC's were the way to go for video games.

More bang for yer buck, fo sho.

No matter what, consoles will always be that little area in gaming where kids get stuck throwing their money away, because they don't know what a good game COULD be like.

You can either buy a console that doesn't amount to anything a PC can do, and spend a lot of money, only to upgrade again, buying the new flaming hot shit console 3 - 5 years later.

As for PC, more games come out on it, better graphics, and games are able to be longer. Lets not forget, that you can spend less money upgrading your system every 3-5 years.

Consoles are for people who don't know a lick about computers, and don't wanna know, because they want their gaming presented to them in a nice neat package.

also, why would you even waste money buying a console, when Nvidia SLI is among us.

i can have a computer with 3 video cards, and a system that WANTS and easily allows me to Over Clock it, to get best performance. Not to mention the amount of system ram, one can have now. i'll be playing the coolest games on PC for the next 5 years, and i might MAYBE only have to throw $300 at a new CPU to enjoy the newest and best game. Where as a console person will have more then likely bought two consoles within those 5 years, spending mass amounts of money on each of them, only to have a box of hardware that doesn't even come close to my computer, and the amount of things i can do on it.

Console gaming reminds me of E-machines these days. Never has it been a good idea to buy a e-machine. Even if AOL online comes in it for free for the first 6 months ! (xbox live, AOL, e-machines, etc etc)

its all a bunch of stuff. Consoles, that is.

The last greatest console might have been the Sega. Only because at that time it made sense to buy a console, because it wasn't worth being a PC gamer. Now, its the other way around.

RichyCunningham
Mar 15th, 2008, 05:35 AM
tl:dr

jow
Mar 15th, 2008, 07:56 AM
Tyler, your post stinks of fanboyism and somebody trying to justify the thousands of dollars he's spending on building a PC. Console gaming and PC gaming are becoming ever closer to the center. Assassin's Creed is a pretty good game and your complaint about "no swimming" is indicative of how weak your overall criticisms of the game and the platform it's on are. Furthermore, I'm really beginning to wonder why I slog through reading anything you post. Your disjointed grammar and nonsensical babble doesn't amount to anything except frustration, and to top it all off; what you're saying isn't worth the effort of reading.

Chill out like a lot, and take care when you post. You're really not giving the respect to the people who are supposed to read your posts that you command when somebody criticizes you. (I'm sure you'll bitch and moan after this is posted. Whatever. Chill out.)

Ska Wars
Mar 15th, 2008, 10:37 AM
All games now seemed rushed as hell, and whats the point ?

Top level games can cost between $2-$5 million easily. Only 20% of games make a profit, less than 40% break even i.e. producers want it out as quickly and as cheaply as possible, so bugs and short cuts a plenty I'm afraid.

Yeah it sucks, but it's not exactly something new mate (Anyone remember Sin?).

Penguin
Mar 15th, 2008, 12:42 PM
I'm still disappointed about that.

I also wish Troika had a lot more money so Bloodlines would've been more polished and maybe they'd be handling Fallout 3 instead of BethSoft.

TylerDurden
Mar 15th, 2008, 08:02 PM
Yeah so anyway, whats up with the standing around in AC ? Anyone else get upset during these parts ? Like when someone is talking to you, and the game "allows" you to run in a little circle around them. Weird little thing to have in the game.

jow
Mar 16th, 2008, 02:17 AM
I'm still disappointed about that.

I also wish Troika had a lot more money so Bloodlines would've been more polished and maybe they'd be handling Fallout 3 instead of BethSoft.

Bloodlines was fantastic. With a bit of polish and maybe the benefit of coming out later in the Source Engine's life, I think it could have been one of the best ever. Still a fantastic game. It got a lot of folks into WoD, too. Nothin' wrong with that.

SMELLY OLD MAN
Mar 16th, 2008, 11:37 PM
>:(



I'm still disappointed about that.

I also wish Troika had a lot more money so Bloodlines would've been more polished and maybe they'd be handling Fallout 3 instead of BethSoft.

Bloodlines was fantastic. With a bit of polish and maybe the benefit of coming out later in the Source Engine's life, I think it could have been one of the best ever. Still a fantastic game. It got a lot of folks into WoD, too. Nothin' wrong with that.

One of my favorite games, and definitely one of the most flawed. It's hard to imagine what that game could have become.