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Rob
Jun 14th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Caught this via Fark, found it rather pleasant. Obama talking on the role of religion and secularism in government, in a church:
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Burris
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:14 PM
He is SO articulate and charismatic.
Koobazaur
Jun 15th, 2008, 05:35 AM
Burris and Obama sitting on a tree, kay eye ass ass eye and gee.
but in all seriousness, obama seems like a pretty decent candidate. hopefully he doesn't turn out to be an utter lier or get shot.
Burris
Jun 15th, 2008, 02:55 PM
He will be a liar. He already is a liar. Criticizing McCain for having Corporate people around him but one of his top guys is a lobbyist. Calls his grandmother a typical white person. He's not a come together candidate. He's a fraud.
Rob
Jun 15th, 2008, 03:20 PM
He will be a liar. He already is a liar. Criticizing McCain for having Corporate people around him but one of his top guys is a lobbyist. Calls his grandmother a typical white person. He's not a come together candidate. He's a fraud.
Thanks, Political Science 101. I feel enlightened now, let me write that one down so I don't forget.
Burris
Jun 15th, 2008, 03:29 PM
Maybe he'll let all the petty criminals go?
Latzen
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:05 AM
You know...along with the race speech in March, I have to say I agree with Jon Stewart:
He's talking to americans like they're actually adults.
I find it refreshing.
This also goes down as another mark in the book of "he's got his head on straight".
Whether that translates into functional government remains to be seen.
Burris
Jun 16th, 2008, 01:15 AM
It's amazing lawyers can still fool people then rob them blind.
Sonic
Jun 16th, 2008, 02:52 AM
I don't like the fact he is/was a member at a blame whitey church, regardless of what the a couple preachers
said. The church itself is so bent on blaming whitey. I'm a fan of Cosby's approach. Stop feeling sorry for
yourself and blaming everyone for your problems. My family came from very humble poor origins just two to
three generations back. Nobody helped them, they simply worked for it.
Rob
Jun 16th, 2008, 11:16 AM
I'm a fan of Cosby's approach. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and blaming everyone for your problems. My family came from very humble poor origins just two to three generations back. Nobody helped them, they simply worked for it.
Obama channels Cosby (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD91AQ8080)
Excerpt:
CHICAGO (AP) — Barack Obama celebrated Father's Day by calling on black fathers, who he said are "missing from too many lives and too many homes," to become active in raising their children.
"They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it," the Democratic presidential candidate said Sunday at a largely black church in his hometown.
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"We can't simply write these problems off to past injustices," Obama said to applause Sunday. "Those injustices are real. There's a reason our families are in disrepair, and some of it has to do with a tragic history, but we can't keep using that as an excuse."
Obama urged black parents to demand the best from themselves and their children.
"Any fool can have a child. That doesn't make you a father," he said. "It's the courage to raise a child that makes you a father."
Guy Montag
Jun 16th, 2008, 06:19 PM
I wonder if churches that allow candidates to speak like this ever have their tax status examined.
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