The effects of Zionsim

[jordan]

Food for thought;

http://www.ifamericansknew.org

[Rob]

Since the subject's on the table, I'll repost this here...

[Cole]

Sadly the numbers don't mater no one cares, and no one is going to open their mouths because if they do it makes them anti semitic, Since WW2 no one dare say anything about the Jews because of how bad they were treated, I'm sorry its not an excuse for the humans rights violations Israel continues to pile up on a daily basis...
But it sure makes it easy for Zionists to take advantage of this and get away with it...




UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992
1. Resolution 106: "... 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "... 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation""
13. Resolution 259: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon'
31. Resolution 444: "...'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians" 39. Resolution 471: "... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "... 'reiterates' that Israel's claims to Jerusalem are 'null and void'"
41. Resolution 478: "...'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'"
42. Resolution 484: "...'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops" 55. Resolution 605: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.


The following are the resolutions vetoed by the United States during the period of September, 1972, to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council criticism:
1. ....condemned Israel's attack against Southern against southern Lebanon and Syria..."
2. ....affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections..."
3. ...condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians..."
4. ....called for self-determination of Palestinian people..."
5. ....deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations..."
6. ....affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people..."
7. ....endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people..."
8. ....demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights..."
9. ....condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations..."
10. ....condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem..."
11. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon..."
12. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut..."
14. ....urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon..."
15. ....condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace..."
16. ....deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal..."
17. ....condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression...."
18. ....denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories..."
19. ....deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon..."
20. ....deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites..."
21. ....condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane..."
22. ....deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon..."
23. ....called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations..."
24. ....urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices..."
25. ....condemned Israel's... incursion into Lebanon..."
26. ....deplored Israel's... commando raids on Lebanon..."
27. ....deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians..."
28. ....deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians..."
29. ....demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada..."
30. ...called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands..."-

[Cheeto]

I love UN resolutions. They actually think anyone cares about them.

[jordan]

I feel bad for the Palestinians

The U.N.: "Hey Palestine, a lot of Jews got killed in the Holocaust"
Palestine: "Yes, and that was a very unfortunate event and we feel sorry for them"
The U.N.: "Well now you're going to have to move, they're occupying your territory now"

Lobby groups like AIPAC have convinced the american voter that we are allied with Israel; we break our backs for them, what do they do for us (beyond ruin our relationship with arab nations and plunge us further into debt?)

[Burris]

This site forum is pretty surprisingly liberal.

Look, Israel's not going to give up an ounce of land until the arabs stop being fucking nuts over this shit. (I don't care what you say about "occupied lands" they had a chance to get a nation state and they turned it down because they thought they could annihilate the jews)

I hate to break it to you, but statistics on deaths of children comparative to nations do not mean SHIT. Israel had a right to exist and when people are launching rockets at them from borders they have the right to retaliate. But go ahead, talk about how lovely Palestine is, essentially a corrupt oligarchy/terrorist state and how they just want their nation yet they do nothing to prove they want peace.

All hail the Palestinian "Freedom fighters"

I could post a thread about the "effects of terrorism" but that would just make me look like a close minded "republican" right? :rolleyes:

[Rob]

This site forum is pretty surprisingly liberal.

Look, Israel's not going to give up an ounce of land until the arabs stop being fucking nuts over this shit. (I don't care what you say about "occupied lands" they had a chance to get a nation state and they turned it down because they thought they could annihilate the jews)

Perhaps a little more detailed study is in order.

Zionists (note: I differentiate here from "Jews") had been buying up land and lobbying the European powers for a Jewish homeland as early as 1897.

The Zionist movement found significant support in 1914, from the British government, in the form of military units made up primarily of Zionist volunteers wanting to fight the Ottoman Turks and advance the idea of a Jewish homeland. This same group was a significant part of the British military forces which conquered Palestine in the wake of the First World War. (Wiki: Jewish Legion, if you're curious)

Four years after the war ended, 1922, Great Britain was given the mandate over Palestine specifically for (and I quote): "placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home".

Throughout the 1930s, the rise of Nazism meant the continued exodus of European Jews. By 1936, somewhere in the neighbourhood of 500 000 Jews had relocated to Palestine. Half a million people in under 40 years. Perhaps inevitably, the Palestinean Arabs revolted against Britain's rather open-door policy with regards to immigration into their country.

What followed was the White Paper, which at first glance appears to be rather racist in its declarations. But it seems, rather that it was a phased attempt to transfer immigration responsibility out of British hands and into that of the Arabs of Palestine.

Was this law followed? Of course not. With what was going on in Europe at the time, it shouldn't come as any shock that a movement started to encourage and operate illegal immigration. This happened in two phases. The first, illegal immigration in violation of the statute, roughly 1933-42. The second phase, accepting displaced European Jews. By the end of the war, the Jewish population in Palestine had skyrocketed to a full third of the population. Not bad for a mere 50 years of immigration.

Soon after the war, Britain withdrew from their Mandate and handed it over to the new United Nations. Who, of course, promptly drew up a map finally giving a state to the Zionists: Israel.


Perhaps it's time to halt for a minute, and point out a couple of common threads throughout this half-century history lesson. 1) Continuous Western intervention in a place where people were already living and who did not WANT foreign intervention. 2) Continuous Zionist intervention and meddling in a place where people were already living.


It really ought to come as no shock that the Arabs would be a little pissed by now. Enter the Arab-Israeli War. 700 000 Arabs are forced to flee Palestine in the conflict. And in the aftermath, this illegitimate, invader state is accepted into the United Nations and recognized by the Western powers as the legitimate authority in the region. Talk about getting kicked while you're down.

Less than 10 years later, Israel enters into a secret alliance with France and (wait for it) Great Britain, against their Arab neighbours in Egypt. In the ensuing conflict, Israel captures the Sinai and doesn't withdraw until promised shipping rights in the Red Sea and the Canal.

Ten years after that, Israel launches a pre-emptive war and seizes Gaza and the West Bank--territories populated by Palestinean Arabs--as military conquests, in direct contravention of post-WW2 worldwide agreements that military conquest of territory is an international crime.

And what did the UN and the West do to stop this rampaging child they'd created in someone else's yard? Right...absolutely nothing.

Add this 75 years of mistreatment, abuse, and neglect of the local population by both the West and the Zionist movement to the last 35 years of continued abuse by the "legitimate" authority in the country and you have some very pissed off people. You reap what you sow, and it should come as no shock or surprise to anyone that they're lobbing rockets at Israelis all the time.

It's an illegitimate state, founded on racist government and legitimized by colonialist military force and the tacit continued moral approval of those same original colonial powers. To say that Palestineans "had a chance to get a nation state and they turned it down" is the nothing but the height of cultural arrogance and smug superiority, with what appears to be a touch of ignorance thrown in, just for good measure.

[jordan]

This site forum is pretty surprisingly liberal.

If liberal means totally revising our middle east foreign policy, then so be it I'm liberal, but as far as other issues are concerned I wouldn't call myself liberal at all. Do you watch foxnews?

[Rob]

Bonus trivia: the population of Israel (including the Occupied Territories) is today over 75% Jewish, with a whopping 20% Arab population as their largest minority.

[Burris]

I don't care what arab is mad. The Israelis immigrated there, they agreed to a two state solution, Palestine and the rest of the arabs did not, they lost, they're bitter about it.

But yes, theres a vast Zionist conspiracy, of course, totally logical. allah'u ackbar my friend.

Racist? Are you aware of the Arabs in the Israeli parliament? You're the only one that sounds racist.

The arabs that choose to stay in Israel? The Beduoins who ASKED Israeli to allow them to be drafted?

Your opinion on the matter is utterly bias and utterly clouded by one of the many stupid pro palestinian lobbies.

Alas, I fear I"m going to be the only one who denounces the "Freedom fighters" so, I doubt I'll make another appearance in this bias bullshit.

LOL Fox News, like it matters what news network you watch? You're just as close minded as the stupid republicans.

Yes, let's revise our middle east policy, allow the jews to be wiped out, because statistics show children die.