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    Found this c/o Fark last night. It's quite long, but an interesting read nonetheless I thought. Excerpt:

    If the one-in-four statistic is correct—it is sometimes modified to “one-in-five to one-in-four”—campus rape represents a crime wave of unprecedented proportions. No crime, much less one as serious as rape, has a victimization rate remotely approaching 20 or 25 percent, even over many years. The 2006 violent crime rate in Detroit, one of the most violent cities in America, was 2,400 murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults per 100,000 inhabitants—a rate of 2.4 percent. The one-in-four statistic would mean that every year, millions of young women graduate who have suffered the most terrifying assault, short of murder, that a woman can experience. Such a crime wave would require nothing less than a state of emergency—Take Back the Night rallies and 24-hour hotlines would hardly be adequate to counter this tsunami of sexual violence. Admissions policies letting in tens of thousands of vicious criminals would require a complete revision, perhaps banning boys entirely. The nation’s nearly 10 million female undergrads would need to take the most stringent safety precautions. Certainly, they would have to alter their sexual behavior radically to avoid falling prey to the rape epidemic.

    None of this crisis response occurs, of course—because the crisis doesn’t exist. During the 1980s, feminist researchers committed to the rape-culture theory had discovered that asking women directly if they had been raped yielded disappointing results—very few women said that they had been. So Ms. commissioned University of Arizona public health professor Mary Koss to develop a different way of measuring the prevalence of rape. Rather than asking female students about rape per se, Koss asked them if they had experienced actions that she then classified as rape. Koss’s method produced the 25 percent rate, which Ms. then published.
    The Campus Rape Myth ?

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    Not to dismiss rape (I've dated more than a couple of girls who'd been through it), but those statistics can be easily skewed simply by changing your definition of rape. Is it a violation of the body, nevermind whether there is any physical penetration? Is it sex with someone who's drunk (whether or not you are, as well) and consents in her inebriated state but later wishes she hadn't? Same with drug influenced girls. Is it even just a false claim to get back at a boyfriend that is never taken off the statistics book? Is it even just statutory rape, a 17 year old who has a 19 year old boyfriend (there are a significant number of both at universities and colleges)? Further, does this include rape cases outside the norm, such as a male victim or a female attacker?

    This is the problem with cases like these. A real problem gets so exaggerated to whip up a frenzy about what a danger we're all in that any measures that are taken are so hopelessly misdirected that the original problem remains unsolved and now everyone has to deal with new, stupid, useless rules lest they be labeled as uncaring about it. Statisticians are almost as evil as lawyers and politicians, IMO.
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    Skim read it and agreed. "Rape" is such a loose term (not as loose as some of the college women...) when applied to College/University sexual activities.

    Should be rebranded

    "Sexual act which occured to the 'victim' being too drunk to remember their actions which has resulted in guilt and desire for some sort of justifcation and result"

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    My University had every student take a study a few years ago to "determine" how many students on campus had been sexually assaulted. Among the questions used to "determine" this was "Have you been asked to participate in sexual acts that you did not want to participate in?" Of course, this is an almost universal "yes". I've told people to go fuck themselves - certainly something that people didn't want to do. This would easily fit under the category of "sexual assault" as defined by my (and hundreds of other) University.

    Only 1 time, the first question, did the 25 or so question survey refer directly to "rape" - aka a *forced* sexual act against the victim's wishes. The subsequent questions effectively related any reference *ever* to sex - as a form of sexual assault.

    My current GF was *actually* raped at her University, and these bullshit statistics do people like her an actual disservice (at the least).
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    Rape is always such an incredibly touchy subject. There's so many cases where a girl was raped and she gets put through the ringer and then never gets justice, and there's cases where nobody wants to consider the guy may be innocent because they're all too aware of the former problem... Such a clusterfuck.

    Had a girlfriend once whose sexual assault case was a total catastrophe, truly it's a heartbreaking thing for anyone you love to go through. It's really not surprising when you hear about girls who never report they were raped.

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    Off-topic but college related:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7290088.stm

    One in four teenage girls in the United States has a sexually-transmitted disease, a study has indicated.

    The study, by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), found an even higher prevalence of STDs among black girls.

    It found that nearly half of the African-American girls surveyed had at least one STD, while the rate was 20% among white and Mexican-American teenagers.

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    PSA: Only smell dicks with those stupid nose filters from Ultraviolet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger Lord
    Off-topic but college related:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7290088.stm

    One in four teenage girls in the United States has a sexually-transmitted disease, a study has indicated.

    The study, by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), found an even higher prevalence of STDs among black girls.

    It found that nearly half of the African-American girls surveyed had at least one STD, while the rate was 20% among white and Mexican-American teenagers.
    One in four? I've beat the odds!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReutherMonkey
    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger Lord
    Off-topic but college related:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7290088.stm

    One in four teenage girls in the United States has a sexually-transmitted disease, a study has indicated.

    The study, by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), found an even higher prevalence of STDs among black girls.

    It found that nearly half of the African-American girls surveyed had at least one STD, while the rate was 20% among white and Mexican-American teenagers.
    One in four? I've beat the odds!
    I didn't. I had the clap for a while. Shit ain't cool.

    Funny, I've had sex with 4 girls.... damn maths is accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HS The Whap
    I didn't. I had the clap for a while. Shit ain't cool.

    Funny, I've had sex with 4 girls.... damn maths is accurate.
    Whap needs to wrap!

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